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Quiara Vasquez's avatar

This is a very scary essay because when I read it I had the distinct impression that maybe Lena Dunham is actually talented? And so I had to give myself a refresher of why Lena Dunham is a clueless out-of-touch Caucasoid, so I googled the time she and her friends recorded a video of them lip synching to "Formation" to encourage people to vote for Hillary Clinton. EXCEPT IT TURNS OUT I RASHOMONNED MYSELF AND LENA DUNHAM DIDN'T DO THAT! IT WAS AMY SCHUMER ALL ALONG! My god, was I hating the wrong woman all this time? And even worse - what if Amy Schumer is also talented? I mean, this is a post-"Who's the Next Lena Dunham?" world. For all we know she's great too!!

In conclusion, if you write an essay about Hannah Gadsby my brain will implode.

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Naomi Kanakia's avatar

I liked this post a lot. I was in a fiction mfa from 2012-2024 and my classmates were achingly jealous of Dunham, though it didn't make sense because they were all from regular non privileged backgrounds so how could they have ever ended up like her?

I don't think there's anything malicious in making Hannah middle class. It's a common tool for upper class writers. Look at Emma clines protag in the girls. Cline is the scion of a vineyard owner, but her character lives in a tract home. Same for Curtis sittenfeld in prep, she is the daughter of a judge and all her siblings went to Princeton or some shit, but her character is middle class. It's just a way of being relatable to a middle class audience and dramatizing the outsiderdom that you feel emotionally. Kind of like how in Heian japan, most of the writers were actually public figures, priestesses or royal consorts, with ceremonial roles in public life, but they only wrote about cloistered, domestic women--folks of a slightly lower social class--becahse that was their audience. Girls at its peak only had like 800k viewers. Imagine if it had been even LESS relatable. Not that stuff about rich folks doesn't succeed, but it has to be aspirational. Nobody wants to see rich, whining Hannah. But middle class Hannah is achingly human

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